Following Sunday night’s second presidential debate in St. Louis, Trump senior adviser and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani joined MSNBC’sChris Matthews to spin for the Republican candidate.

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At a certain point in their conversation, following a lengthy portion where Giuliani said Hillary Clinton should be in jail for lying, Matthews brought up the elephant on the room — the “grab ’em by the pussy” hot mic moment. The Hardball host said that if he were looking for evidence that someone were a criminal, couldn’t Donald Trump saying he wanted to grab a woman by the crotch be used against him.

Well, Giuliani didn’t really want to talk about the Access Hollywoodtape. Instead, he wanted to discuss Bill Clinton’s exploits, such as being accused of rape by Juanita Broaddrick and his affair withMonica Lewinsky.

Bringing up Lewinsky, he noted that Clinton wasn’t prosecuted “for taking advantage of an intern in the White House.” After Matthews pushed back and said there was no tape of him saying he did it, like we have with Trump, Giuliani flipped out.

 

“There was semen on the mermaid prom dress,” Giuliani exclaimed. “Which proved he lied to America.” He then got another shot at Hillary, “She’s getting away with lying to America.”